Do you think "recovery" is necessary before someone involved themselves in pro-life efforts, such as: pastoring, public speaking, leading support groups, counseling others, managing pro-life or Christian ministries, etc.?
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I think a greater level of healing would be required for that kind of involvement, but healing can be helped by getting involved. It worked that way for me.
As a post-abortive woman myself, I definetely think that healing is crucial before a woman, or man, becomes actively involved in a public support of the pro-life movement; especially if she will be counseling woman who may come to a CPC and may have abortion on the mind. Sydne Masse's series for post abortive women addresses just this. We need to learn to address our bitterness, anger, grief, why we chose abortion, and realize that Jesus loves us. That we are forgiven. I have been through an 11 week recovery class and co-lead it this year. I hope to lead it some day myself.
After my abortion it took me three years of self-loathing to finally come to terms with what I had done. I only came about to fighting the pro-life cause last year.
Marie
Very Important. Even though the family member may not be the person involved in the abortion, the abortion has affected them. My suggestion is to attend a Rachel's Vineyard Retreat. A retreat can be found in all areas in the U.S. & around the world at RachelsVineyard.org. The other thing that will happen with this retreat besides healing, will be an outpouring of the Holy Spirit, leading the individual on a closer path to discerning what God has planned for one's life.
Regina Burke likes this.I will dissent with everyone in this thread. No, no, a thousand times no.
I have lost my mother, and it was the most painful thing that I had ever gone through. I was suicidal. And 17. I did not go through professional counselling for help with my bereavement, because I knew my family wouldn't take me. I am still hurting from the loss, just as any person reeling from an abortion would be. But each person will have to go through grief, anxiety, depression in some cases -- just because we go through these phases, doesn't mean we can't pick ourselves up.
Now, I'll be frank -- if someone has a severe blow to his mental stability, say, schizophrenia, then probably yes. But the whole point of my response is this: Just because someone is weak and feeling strong emotions from something he's done or experienced, doesn't mean he is any less qualified for whatever mission he has in hand. There are situations whereby that same weakness can become a person's strength, and that is essentially true for counselling. I know a seminarian friend of mine who did go through a period of suicidal feeling, who has the same situation as me (in that we are the only ones in our respective families practising the Faith), but those weaknesses have not impaired him.
People find recovery in different ways, some don't find it at all. But to say that someone must completely recover or else he cannot serve, is tantamount to saying that he must be born completely able, or be aborted. Or, it could be tantamount to saying that a person must not be a sinner, or else he cannot serve others. For crying out loud, we all have weaknesses!
There is an actress on October Baby who found recovery only when getting involved in a pro-life film. Before that, she had not recovered. The cast accepted her nonetheless, because her role was simply to inspire, by her actions, her experience, her weaknesses.
I rest my case.
Annette...
If people have experienced an abortion and wish to work with others, speak publicaly or involve themselves in the lives of others... it is paramount that they be the best mind emotionally. Too many times we see Christian leaders who have not processed their own grief, guilt or other issues... only to further wound those in their care.
The death of a parent is quite different that taking the life of one's own child.
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Too many times we see Christian leaders who have not processed their own grief, guilt or other issues... only to further wound those in their care.
Maybe so, but couldn't the best consolation be given in the Sacraments? We are dealing with people who, logically speaking, would turn to the best counsellors they ever have: their friends. I speak from the point of view of someone who has gone for professional counselling. Essentially what the counsellor does is help you to come to a decision without being intrusive. Essentially, a mediator. A person healing from abortion would not want a mediator, but someone deeply involved in the field. And if a person has experienced strong grief, guilt or other issues, even if unprocessed, if that were the sole motivator for people to stop aborting children, would that not be better?
It's not the merits of the individual that I'm after. It's love itself. And love can be given even by people who have not been able to process their thoughts right. I speak after having spoken to people who have lost those dear to them, and after having liaised with so many people who have lost their children or siblings to abortion.
The death of a parent is quite different that taking the life of one's own child.
And what would you then say to people who lose siblings through abortion? I believe it's the same feeling as losing siblings through miscarriage, as I myself have.
I avoid that line of thinking completely, because essentially, that is equivalent to saying, "You haven't been through what I've been through, you have no position to say anything!" Therefore not even any chaplain or seminarian or spiritual director can ever be authorised to counsel me, if that rationale were to be followed. What I am able to do is say, I know I've lost someone, and even though I don't necessarily understand fully, I want for you to be healed, and I will be there. Am I, then, precluded from saying this just because I haven't lost anyone through abortion?
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Maybe so, but couldn't the best consolation be given in the Sacraments? We are dealing with people who, logically speaking, would turn to the best counsellors they ever have: their friends. I speak from the point of view of someone who has gone for professional counselling. Essentially what the counsellor does is help you to come to a decision without being intrusive. Essentially, a mediator. A person healing from abortion would not want a mediator, but someone deeply involved in the field. And if a person has experienced strong grief, guilt or other issues, even if unprocessed, if that were the sole motivator for people to stop aborting children, would that not be better?
It's not the merits of the individual that I'm after. It's love itself. And love can be given even by people who have not been able to process their thoughts right. I speak after having spoken to people who have lost those dear to them, and after having liaised with so many people who have lost their children or siblings to abortion.
And what would you then say to people who lose siblings through abortion? I believe it's the same feeling as losing siblings through miscarriage, as I myself have.
I avoid that line of thinking completely, because essentially, that is equivalent to saying, "You haven't been through what I've been through, you have no position to say anything!" Therefore not even any chaplain or seminarian or spiritual director can ever be authorised to counsel me, if that rationale were to be followed. What I am able to do is say, I know I've lost someone, and even though I don't necessarily understand fully, I want for you to be healed, and I will be there. Am I, then, precluded from saying this just because I haven't lost anyone through abortion?
Annette I love you and I understand what you are saying. However, the big difference is the feeling of guilt and shame. In other words: "I have done something bad and I am a bad person".
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Annette I love you and I understand what you are saying. However, the big difference is the feeling of guilt and shame. In other words: "I have done something bad and I am a bad person".
Then it's up to us to say that you're not anymore! :D
Remember when you found your man? How much healing you got? This is our role as pro-lifers. We are here to be united, regardless of whatever we've gotten through. And I know all of us are in this together, regardless of whatever convictions we have, or conditions for that matter.
We've gotta remember what we're here for. And if I have to be the sole defender of this, then so be it!








